@matigo Exciting. But maybe not this weekend.
Odd. Encrypt.me seems unable to secure a connection on this free WiFi network at the airport. In which case, what’s the point?
Webmentions are the glue that sticks all the bits in all the sites together.
That's my one-liner about one of the core ideas about the #IndieWeb, but it doesn't actually tell you very much if you want to know how the glue works. I've kind of absorbed a moderately high-level abstraction over the past little while of playing with webmentions, but a friend asked for more:
Do you know of any diagrams that explain how this stuff works without all the … words that web communities seem to enjoy creating? I keep coming back to this topic every so often, and every time I return things just appear more complicated and broken than before …
I don't think that last opinion is merited, but then I would say that. And right now I don't have the time to write up my understanding. I'm pretty sure I saw something clear and to the point a little while back, but I'm blowed if I can find it now. So here are four pieces I have found.
- Implementing Webmentions [allinthehead.com], which contains a good verbal description of the flow.
- Adactio: Journal—Parsing webmentions [adactio.com], which explains some the technology too.
- So long Disqus, hello Webmention [nicolas-hoizey.com] has a go at why webmentions are a good idea and some of the nuts and bolts of implementation.
- Webmentions · Rudiger Meyer [rudigermeyer.com] is another good verbal description of the how, along with the why and the what.
These may not answer the question fully, but they are a start. And they might inspire me to write my own version, especially if I could have a synchronous discussion about it with my interlocuter.
// @matigo @jws
POSSE from About webmentions [stream.jeremycherfas.net]
@jws I haven’t forgotten. Just been out interviewing people for the podcast. Will do it as soon as I get home.
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@matigo I'll look for something I did see recently.
Is there a permalink for each post?
@matigo Just as a quick example, I cannot find a permalink to the post to which I am replying. (Probably my stupidity.) That means I cannot now reply to it from one of my sites, even if I wanted to simply in order to draw attention to the discussion happening here. And people who might see that post can't reply to it either, without signing up for 10C. All of which is a brake on the wider use of 10C.
@matigo People are using it where they can. Still fairly niche, but unless there's a way of displaying the results, not much point. So, You just replied to my recent post on my Known site. With webmentions, you could have replied from here. But you wouldn't do that easily unless you were also reading that post here. But I don't cross-post to here, because there's no easy mechanism that would give me any benefit.
One of the most interesting developments in that space now is the emerging collaboration between WebSub and MicroPub, to create feed readers that allow you to interact directly with what you're reading. So you can bookmark, like, reply, quote and so on.
Webmentions are the glue that sticks all the bits in all the sites together.
10C isn't getting them because 10C doesn't do anything with them.